M3 Tribute to Ronnie James Dio

Happy Mother's Day!

Stryper and the Appice Brothers did a special tribute to Ronnie James Dio at the M3 Rock Festival yesterday. This happened during the All Star Jam. The song is, of course, "Heaven and Hell."

Comments

[Metalboy!]

And Don Dokken is a weirdo!

[Bob]

Metalboy, you keep throwing around the term, "purist", but no one else has said that. I never said I was a purist, Haynes and Trucks never said they were purists, and you yourself said that you've seen Haynes rip it up in a non blues context, so why do you keep bringing up the purist thing as a way to degrade Haynes and Trucks? I agree with you that people will claim to be purists as a way to separate themselves from other people, or as an excuse to not progress beyond their comfort zone, but Haynes and trucks aren't doing that, so I don't get why you're bringing it up in this discussion.

[Metalboy!]

It's unspoken, Bob. And they're purists cuz they just can't bust out of he whole groove trip. It's just like Clapton not being able to take the leap.

Look, man, I'm a Glam Metalhead. I just can't go there with ya. I left that scene a long time ago. It just holds back. It's not as abstract as the stuff that descends from Zeppelin (read Hair Metal). But I do listen to an Allman Brothers Live Boot from time to time with Zakk Wilde subbing for a sick Derek Trucks. What a maniac. Beautiful Overkill!

And I like Zappa, who just takes playing to an entirely different plain, abandoning all convention in a way that will never be touched. The albums, "Guitar" and "Shut Up And Play Your Guitar" say it all.

But, in the end, I'm stickin' with the Dirty Ratts!

p.s. Maybe there's a Bring Back Southern Rock! site for ya somewhere, Dude!

[Metalboy!]

"Different plane" -- damn auto-correct!

[Bob]

Metalboy, despite the shots you're taking at me, I am enjoying this discussion. couldn't the same thing you're saying about haynes and Trucks be said for Cavazo and DiMartini? What leaps have they taken beyond playing glam metal? Because they play the same style of music all the time, couldn't they be considered glam metal purists? And if so, is being a glam metal purist okay, but being a blues purist isn't? also, let's make something else clear...If I didn't like glam metal, I wouldn't visit this site every day. Just because I also like the Allman Brothers doesn't mean that I don't like Motley crue, Quiet riot, etc. I also like Miles Davis. does that mean that I'm not allowed to come here, and that I need to find a Bring Back jazz web site?

[Bob]

also, you said in an earlier post that purists like haynes and Trucks don't show respect for other players like DiMartini and Cavazo. since you seem to count me as part of this purist group because I like haynes and Trucks, I find your statement ironic. I said that I respect Cavazo's and DiMartini's playing, and I enjoy listening to them. You, on the other hand, referred to haynes' and Trucks' playing as "Whittlefests", and also said they were boring. sounds like the purist is showing the respect, and the non purist isn't. Plus, when I mentioned haynes and Trucks in my original post, I made no reference to the choices that previous posters mentioned. It was you who turned this into a debate initially, not me.

[fletch]

there is a bring back southern rock! website. I keep it real there, too. (well, used to). sorry, tom.

hence, my 'confront'ational position to begin with...I am glam and don't need to bring it back. define what you mean by "bring it back". And, I'm not talking about you Metalboy! I'm talking TO them. And, always was

[Metalboy!]

Hahaha!!! This is great, Bob.

Here's my position, take it or leave it...

The Southern Blues Rock Style of Guitar Playing is limited in scope in that it has to reference the Blues.

The Glam Metal Style of Guitar Playing has more infinite possibilities because it is not beholden to any one style of Rock'n'Roll.

As I mentioned, I saw Dickey Betts point blank in a small club on the eastern tip of Long Island. I was so close, for all practical purposes, he might as well have been standing on my table as it butted the stage, dead center in front of him.

Needless to say, he played his guitar every which way 'til Sunday. He's probably the best living practitioner of you favorite genre of guitar playing but in the end, he was crankin' so fast, it wound up sounding like Zappa.

Now, let's take Wolf Hoffman, the classically trained lead guitarist of Accept. Granted, he's not a Glam Metal guitarist, but maybe a more Melodic than usual Power Metal Guitarist. To me, he has much more territory to work with. Or he chooses to. I saw him with Accept last Summer in Orlando and he just blew the doors off the place, leaving no note unturned, no note unplaced, in every genre of Hard Rock imagineable -- literally -- Thrash, Speed, Power, Arena, Pomp, Classic and, yes, Glam. But he skipped the whole Southern trip where your boys live, for some reason.

p.s. I think an example of a Metal guitarist who is trapped by one way of playing is Kirk Hammett, which is a big reason why I find him AND Metallica totally boring.

[Bob]

well Metalboy, at least we agree on a few things: Betts and Hoffman are awesome, and Hammett is exceedingly boring. :) My musical tastes are all over the place: hard rock, metal, classic rock, blues, jazz, and even some classical. I don't find any of these genres limiting for the players. Just because glam guitar may involve playing more notes than the blues style of playing doesn't mean that blues players are limited in what they can do. but, at this point we've gone around in a complete circle. Your favorite style of guitar is when people are playing a lot of notes, and that's fine. I also like that style of playing, but I also like guitar playing where there are fewer notes, but the player really grinds as much out of each note as possible. You know what man, the weekend is almost here. Let's put all this to bed, and crank up our favorite music this weekend, whatever it may be, and be glad that there are enough divergent styles out there to make everybody happy. Sound good MB?