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Wednesday
Mar062019

The Lenten Season

Are you giving up any glam for Lent?

You’ll see folks with ashes on their foreheads today. Mardi Gras is over and the Lenten season has begun.

Most folks that I know give up things like chocolate, donuts, Twitter… when I was in college, one of my Catholic roommates gave up boys for 40 days because she was just over it. (This seriously happened).

So this morning I got to thinking “I wonder if any of the glam faithful give up their favorite music during Lent?”

I couldn’t do it. I can’t imagine not being able to listen to whatever I want, whenever I want. The thought makes me shudder.

Thoughts?


Reader Comments (29)

As a long-reformed Catholic, I always found the idea of "giving up" something for Lent to be one of the most pointless exercises I'd ever witnessed. Okay, fine, if you want to "give up" an hour of your Saturday to go volunteer somewhere that makes sense. But just the idea of "giving up" chocolate or meat or beer (god forbid!) just seems meaningless. But then again, I'm a SINNER! \m/ \m/
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterEddieLongHair
Wow for everyone who loved The Dirt nobody has mentioned that Nikki was raping women and his bandmate was there too! And now he says he doesnt remember or he made it up 🤔 Is that in the movie too?
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterBadland
Here's my deal. I was Born and raised Catholic.I Believe in God. Then again,I'm pretty sure that if your running around on your wife while you're stealing from your place of employment, all while you ignore truly sick or needy people as you drive by in a $100,000 Beamer on your way to the country club 6 days a week, odds are good you're also a flaming douche canoe (but only when you're awake). But yet according to Catholicism, (and all the pedophilic folks you're supposed to confess your sins to, you know, meet the demon ones such as swearing or eating meat on a Friday ) ,all is wiped clean if you go to church and drop a big ole donation into the collection plate. Sorry, I ain't buying. I will now get down off of my soapbox and return you to your regularly scheduled programming. PS. I give up junk food every year, mainly because I'm now built more like VInny Neal circa 2008 than circa 1985 like we both used to be.😳 😂
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterGary
I know that, for some people, the Lenten season is a time of deep spiritual reflection, and giving up something they care about is a part of that journey. Being the "live and let live" person I am, I say bravo to them if that's what they want to do. Me personally?...I don't bother with Lent. If there really is some sort of omniscient spirit in the sky who literally keeps an eye on 7 billion people 24 hours a day, I am sure that he/she/it has bigger things to worry about than whether or not you ate chocolate for a month.
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterBob
@Badland. Kinda funny how Nikki could magically remember setlists and who opened for them all through 1987, while "in the throes of full blown heroin addiction", but cant remember if he raped somebody? I can smell bullshit (on both fronts) all the way over here in Pennsylvania.... lol
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterGary
“Eddie Longtime Where You Been Hair”, I am one with you completely, my Brother in Metal!!! And you, too, Bob!

As George Carlin once said, “I used to be Irish Catholic but now I’m an American.” from his album, “Class Clown” of which I learned every word when I was 12 shortly after it came out including “The Seven Words You Can Never Say On Television”, which I can still recite at “FedEx Guy” speed!

So, I quit attending mass shortly thereafter in my early teens. This after years of CCD, attending St. Mary’s School and taking Irish Jig classes afterward. Thinking back, my parents never forced the whole “Give up something for Lent” trip on me. It never came up even on Ash Wednesday.

p.s. FUNNY Gary!!! One your MOST hilarious Comments ever, by far!!! And that means REALLY frickin’ FUNNY, because of how hysterically humorous all your comments generally are to begin with!!!
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
p.s.2. Oh, and FUNNY Gary, not only are your Comments pricelessly hysterical, they are SO true! I am with you, all the way, as well!
March 6, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Raised Catholic and went through several of the traditions: baptism (obviously, not much choice!), parochial grade school, CCD, and even a diocesan college (not many of those around). Was also an altar boy (no jokes!). I am now a lapsed Catholic, though I have several close family members (including my dear mom) who are still active in the church. Many of my closest friends remain the ones I made in grade school and some of them are raising their kids in the church.

When it was time for confirmation, I balked. I told my mom I couldn't do it and feel good about myself, considering I wasn't sure I believed in all the church taught. I also told her that I didn't think I should take communion anymore. I thought it was disrespectful given my crisis of faith. She promptly marched me to the parish priest for a talk. He and I got along just fine. We talked for close to two hours. When it was all said and done, he told my mom that I was making a mature decision and it was up to me if I wanted to come back to the faith, so to speak. My mom was dumbfounded. But she came to understand the priest's reasoning, and mine.

I went through a period in my life where it felt fashionable to bash my upbringing, including the church I was raised in. And I realize that, contemporaneously, the church has taken a lot of rightful hits for sins of omission and outright lies that protected predators and hurt followers in ways that are hard to fathom, leaving wounds that sometimes never heal. I get it.

I also get all the rage in the world re: religion. I laugh at a lot of the jokes. But I also judge people by their deeds and now view religions in much the same way that William James once did. Religion has done a lot of good and a lot of harm. But people of various faiths, and those without any, have done that too. And I cringe at some very smart people who make sport of mocking religion with a devotion that borders on the religious fervor of those they decry, slight, and demean. Some jokes just aren't that funny when they cast the teller in the light of a fanatic (and that comment applies to no one on this site, mind you).

I know a good many people of faith who live good lives. Same with agnostics (which side? which side?) and atheists. I try to judge them by their merits. I often fail. But I try. That might actually be residue of how I was raised. And if it is, I am okay with that.

If denying yourself something, even something trivial, brings you to a better place (closer to God or closer to your fellow travelers on Earth, or even both), that is good in my book. It is not dissimilar to other faith traditions--Eastern and Western--that see abstaining as a means of understanding. If it is done as a mere ritual and routine, you might want to consider my talk with my priest.

So I chuckle at talk of Cosmic Wizards and all that (and know some deadly jokes about Catholics). But I also see value in what faith represents and the good that it brings out in people around me (not just Catholics).

. . . but back to the question: I could never give up metal. That would be sacrilegious!
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterHim
About the only thing I can say positive about church is that you can learn morals, values, compassion and how to give but other than that I am no fan of religion. Born into the southern baptist realm and after experiencing an attempted molestation by one of the brethren at 16 then the attempted metal intervention where some traveling wanna be musician tried to convince me all my metal heroes were gay I had enough... then fast forward to being in the middle east and other 3rd world countries I have some serious doubts about the after life.

@badland been pondering the same question myself..

@Gary you are hilarious...

@MB George Carlin one of my favorites of all time

Have a great day

@Him you are a very wise man...

@MB
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterShawn
HIM - I really enjoyed reading your comments. Very insightful and very interesting.

I am not Catholic but was raised Greek Orthodox which is similar to the Catholic faith from what I'm told.

I don't give religion much thought. It is not a part of my life. If asked if I believe in a deity, I would say the answer would be negative.

I care about being kind to others, helping people, doing the right thing and being a good person. That's my religion I suppose.

And giving up something you love is ridiculous to me. Life is way too short to deny yourself pleasure and happiness.

So unless I am cutting back on chocolate to drop a few pounds, I follow Paul Stanley's advice generally and that is "You gotta live like you're on vacation". That's a great life motto for me.
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Funny clip of Artie Lange and Howard Stern talking about Ash Wednesday. Funny story short...In High School, Artie's bookie was Catholic. Artie's friend ripped off the bookie. On Ash Wednesday, the bookie met with Artie to get his money back and while doing so, threatened to viciously kill the kid, his family, etc...all the while the bookie was sporting a giant ash cross on his forehead. Talk about wearing your hypocrisy on your sleeve, well face...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bzCTozB3s
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered Commenterfletch
>I care about being kind to others, helping people, doing the right thing and being a good person. That's my religion I suppose.<

Rita, that sums my diatribe above up perfectly. Thank you. And you’re correct about Greek Orthodox. My better half is Russian Orthodox and the similarity to Catholicism is easy to see. Everybody who replied to this truly seems to get it. It being treat others with kindness, help as much as you can, and don’t be an asshat.

PS @Him there’s times I truly believe you flush more intelligence every morning than I’ve ever had 😂😂😂😂
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Shawn, ah yes, the metal intrervention. flash back to my high school years. I remember one of the teachers catching me listening to my Walkman in the hall, (a big no-no back then.) She looked at the cassette in the Walkman, (I wish I could remember which one it was), and said, with all the condescention she could muster, "that music teaches you about the devil." I do remember my hot-headed teenaged response, "Well, this school has a smoking lounge, and cigarettes give you Cancer. Which one is worse?" She walked away in dead silence...Priceless!
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterBob
Thanks Gary. Appreciate the clarification on the Orthodox Catholicism comparison :)
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Most of what I know about Eastern Orthodoxy I learned from Seinfeld. :)
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterGogmagog
@Bob priceless
March 7, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterShawn
Yeah, Shawn ... Carlin was an absolute genius.

HIM, “Do NOT judge and ye shall not be judged.”
March 8, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Shawn, Gary, and Rita . . . thanks for the kind words. I hesitated before posting that, as I tend to stay music-positive (somewhat) and neutral on a lot of other topics that occasionally pop up on this site.

So let me just add a coda: a very wise (though flawed) person once said that any metaphysic you read is really, when you boil it down to its essence, an explanation of the yearnings and hopes of the person or persons who wrote it. It explains them and what they see or saw. As an initial guide, it might provide something very useful. But in the long term, if you hold to that too closely, you start to lose a portion of yourself. Reason? All of us are searching for some explanation and rationale. Best that you take the best of what others taught you and fashion it into something that you can use to make practical, meaningful, useful, changes in the world. Make it your own.

I recognize that is bordering on turgid. I also recognize that it is fraught with complications (how does one judge the racist and sexist and homophobe by that breezy standard, or as against any other one that is deemed, by the user, to be right and just?). But it is a starting point. And that is all we really have. A place to start. If we ended up helping others, that can't hurt, regardless (in most cases) the reasons why.

I mentioned William James in my initial post. So I will end with him here and his paraphrase/borrowing from a respected jurist of his era:

"What do you think of yourself? What do you think of the world? . . . These are questions with which all must deal as it seems good to them. They are riddles of the Sphinx, and in some way or other we must deal with them. . . . In all important transactions of life we have to take a leap in the dark.... If we decide to leave the riddles unanswered, that is a choice; if we waver in our answer, that, too, is a choice: but whatever choice we make, we make it at our peril. If a man chooses to turn his back altogether on God and the future, no one can prevent him; no one can show beyond reasonable doubt that he is mistaken. If a man thinks otherwise and acts as he thinks, I do not see that any one can prove that he is mistaken. Each must act as he thinks best; and if he is wrong, so much the worse for him. We stand on a mountain pass in the midst of whirling snow and blinding mist through which we get glimpses now and then of paths which may be deceptive. If we stand still we shall be frozen to death. If we take the wrong road we shall be dashed to pieces. We do not certainly know whether there is any right one. What must we do? 'Be strong and of a good courage.' Act for the best, hope for the best, and take what comes. . . . If death ends all, we cannot meet death better."

I find that quotation inspiring. I will leave it at that. Thanks for putting up with this non-musical digression.
March 8, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterHim
Someone has some good weed. Pass that shit!
March 8, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterBkallday
Haha!!, BK! The interesting thing is he’s NOT smoking weed and writing this stuff.

Here’s the news ... and it’s really not news, there’s only one God or spiritual entity that connects us all. Calling karma, if you will.

“Do good by others and they will do well by you” and vice-versa but don’t count on it!

And, by all means, slag on ANY of our Rock & Roll Heroes if they deserve it! Why should they be exempt from the scrutiny the rest of us come under? Who do they think they are? Rock Royalty or something?!
March 8, 2019 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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