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Ok, So Let's Say It's November 25th...

Posted on Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 12:01AM by Registered CommenterAllyson B. Crawford | Comments25 Comments

Picture it: November 25th. Thanksgiving time for us Americans. So, wherever you are in the world, you're waking up on November 25th, 2008. Is Chinese Democracy available? Is it on the shelves at your local Best Buy or online? Do you go crazy? Does the music world go crazy? Does anyone even care?

I've thought a lot about Chinese Democracy over the past couple of weeks. Rumored for release on November 25th exclusively through Best Buy, the album could shatter sales records for the year.

Or, it could tank.

On the surface, a lot of us still care about Guns n' Roses and the mythical Chinese Democracy. On a wider scale, most people only remember - or associate - Guns n' Roses with Appetite for Destruction. Very few people even know the band members these days. Hell, I don't. For my money, it's Axl Rose and some other guys. I still think Axl is a smart musician...but he's obviously very, very flawed.

Now that the global economy is in the toilet, simple luxuries are out. This includes dining out, going to concerts and movies and yes, buying music. While a lot of artists might suffer from reduced download and album sales, I think Chinese Democracy will still do well if it is actually released. I also predict that we'll all be seriously underwhelmed with the final song quality and lineup.

So, sound off. What do you think? Will Chinese Democracy break sales records? Will the normal consumer care? Will you stand on line at midnight to get your copy?


I can't wait for your opinions.

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Reader Comments (25)

it will be a tuesday so i will be at work - No Thanksgiving here - i also have no interest in the new axl rose album - i cant bring myself to call it GnR because it isnt - sure i will listen if i here it but have no interest anylonger.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterred6ixx
im not sure i will buy it, i really dont have enough money for that sort of thing, and i dont think it will be all that great.

I want to hear some of the songs first before i buy it.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLucifer
I will buy it but I still ain't holding my breath!!
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterlajustice77
I will definitely be buying it whenever it comes out - I just wish the wait hadn't been quite so long.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercinnamon
The new songs all sucked live. I think it will tank, and that's why he's not releasing it, so he cannot fail.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
If it was 1995 and Slash and Duff were still in the band I would be there. But at this point why bother?
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterScott
All these people that have said they wont buy it will everybody will it will break records for this year i know it and ill be there the minute it comes out!

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October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMotleyCrue666
I have a copy of Chinese Democracy; from when it was leaked a few weeks back - it's an awesome album with some great songs -- HOWEVER....Those that buy it thinking it's going to sound like Appetite For Destruction are not going to be pleased.
It's more of a "studio" album...meaning that you can tell a lot of time and effort went into production and overdubs; most of which I'm assuming will get lost in the live translation should there ever be a tour.
It's not "Guns N' Roses" in the way that you remember GNR, but Axl's voice is in top form and he has a higher register to his voice than I had expected.
I was a huge GNR fan and I wasn't disappointed - but I know how some people can't stand when a band strays from their original concept or style, so for those that aren't a little more open minded, they may be disappointed.
For those that can appreciate great songs and musicianship, you're in for a treat cause it's definitely a whip ass album.
WHY on earth it's taking/taken so long to release is beyond me, it's not life changing or anything - it's just a new CD. I think they hype has been played up so much on this that it is raising expectations to unreasonable levels for those that really are awaiting it's arrival.
In my opinion, Axl should have changed the name of the band and not used the GNR name to release these songs - but that's my opinion.

There are at least three or four GREAT songs on this disk, which means it'll be worth buying and will surely get a ton of airplay and do well if it's promoted right.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJim
So, Jim, it's the equivelant of "Use Your Illusion 3"? I'll pick up a copy if it's at the usual $9.99 first week price. Why not? After your review, I'll definitely give it a shot.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermom2ross
It certainly wont go platinum any time soon but it will sell well I know I will be getting it the day it goes on sale. Im not expecting it to sound like Appetite I think it will be a very complex album and Axl will sound great as he did on Sebastians Angel Down. Axl may be crazy but he kicks ass. After this albums doesnt do what he expected it will pave the way for a full on reunion with the original band minus Adler its gonna happen someday Im sure of that $$$ talks.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterFitz
I have stopped caring about this a long time ago.
I probably won't even pick it up, if it ever does come out. It's not even the real Guns N' Roses! Come on, it's more like an Axl Rose solo project....
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenteraXe mAn
First off, I am a HUGE GnR fan. I have seen the various incarnations over the past several years. Buckethead, Bumblefoot, etc. Although it's not the "O.G. Gnr"( I saw them, too.) Axl is still a great frontman (although definitely a little nuts!). The new songs I heard at Madison Square Garden the last tour as well as the warmup shows at the Hammerstein Ballroom(cool small venue of a couple thousand seats) were good but not really what I would consider "live" songs. I'd really be interested in hearing the final studio product. This album will definitely hit platinum immediately. There are still a lot of us "old-timers" who still BUY music.

Interesting observation: I noticed a comment by Lucifer (no disrespect Lu, just something I noticed) that mentioned he wanted to hear more songs before buying the CD. Well, maybe it's just me but, didn't that used to be part of the whole experience? I mean you bought a CD (album) and had the pleasure of discovering those hidden gems. Stuff you wouldn't hear on the radio or MTV (yes, they actually used to play music videos, hence, the name). Like I said, maybe it's just me, but I just thought it was interesting.

Thoughts? Comments?
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterEddieLongHair
Guns N' Roses are overrated. Everyone thinks their "gods", and in reality, they only put out one great album...if you want to call AFD that...
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenteraXe mAn
Eddielonghairman, you are completely right, and i couldnt agree with you more, the exitement of opening a new album, chucking it on and hearing some of the amazing songs that arent on radio or anything is brilliant, but i'm not sure I want to do that with this album, as I dont have much money. I may buy it, I may not. We'll see when the time comes.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLucifer
I wouldn't bother with the new GnR album. We'll just be as disappointed as when the new Metallica album came out (I was horrified, the vocals were SO bad), and I can't take much more disappointment right now. I probly won't even hork a copy from somewhere just to see how bad it is. The one track they included in Rock Band 2 was enough. I made it thru 15% of the song before I said, "f** this! This sux!".

If Mr.Bi-Polar were to put out this album under a different name (say, like RATM did with Audioslave), then it might be different. But those of us who started listening to GnR 20 years ago when we were 12 are looking for a good rock n' roll album. Not some over-produced, half-industrial sounding POS.

Go spend what little money you have left for spoiling yourself on the new Tesla album, 'Forever More', instead. It r0x :)
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermissy
I don't know when it will be released in Brazil!!!!
But I'll buy....and it will be not for 9,99 US$....at least 25US$...it's brazil baby!!!!
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLucas
and yes....he will break all the rules...charts and records....and those people who says "I dislike this new GNR"....just a few days to change their ideas!
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLucas
I've heard all the demos that have been leaked so far, and I generally don't like the songs. It doesn't matter how much production goes into it, if a song isn't good, it isn't good. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

There are a couple of decent tracks, but nothing great that I have heard so far.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJT
I'll probably get it eventually, just because. But I doubt I'll run out and buy it the second it hits the shelves or anything, I don't care that much.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterr0ck0n
My opinions...First, I seriously doubt this album will actually be released at any point in the future, let alone this November. Second, if it is released, it will sell like gangbusters on the G&R name alone.

You people who think Axl should call the band something else are crazy. Axl is not a man of integrity. He has no interest in the truth or in his fans. His only interest is himself, and bastardizing the G&R name to generate sales serves that interest. The G&R name still has a reputation, and that reputation alone will drive the sales of Chinese Democracy. If this exact same album was released under a different name, it would tank because, from all of the leaked stuff I've heard so far, the songs are average at best. they're not horrible songs, but they aren't exceptional songs either.

Do I personally care if this album is ever released? Absolutely not. Will I buy it? I will only buy it if the music is radically better than the existing leaks, but trust me, there are plenty of sheep out there who will buy this album and swear it's the best thing they've ever heard. the G&R lemmings are people who I will never understand. Axl repeatedly treats you like garbage, and you continue to sing his praises to the sky. If a person whom you actually knew treated you like that, you would have cut that person loose long ago.

To another commenter, I honestly don't find the notion of wanting to hear more music from an album before buying it all that strange. I happen to be an old timer myself who is still an absolute music fanatic, but let's face it, a dollar doesn't go nearly as far as it did 20 years ago, so the idea of buying a CD sound unheard in this day an age is not what I'd consider a wise economic decision.
October 9, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBob

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