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This Is Epic On Many Levels

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 at 12:01AM by Registered CommenterAllyson B. Crawford | Comments23 Comments

Did you watch the Motley Crue/KISS tour announcement press conference? It's pretty epic... on many levels. I cackled quite a few times, for different reasons. I'll let you form your own opinions. Watch.


Reader Comments (23)

They looked bored (esp Thayer and Singer,,maybe because they 'know') and embarrassed. Mick looks dead,,seriously like he should be in a home,Gene shows his true colors that he is a controlling egomaniac. Paul suckin in his stomach? lol. They 'know' the only and real reason of this tour is to steal as much money from the hard working 'fans' as they can. Same ole..But hey,theres one born every minute! I love(d) KISS and The Crue,,but that was along LONG time ago when I had respect for what they did.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJimbo
In the words of Mick Mars, "I don't care".
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHayseed
Kiss blew me away when i say them in 2010, Crue, meh. I will look to go to this show because i love the music. haters gonna hate. lol
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterShadow
Haters can hate all they want! I'm gonna have a blast Sept. 16th. A few asides from the press conference. My favorite band KISS : Paul sucking in his stomach, Paul controlling the press conference, an obvious sore point regarding Gene's reality show, Paul's look of disgust when Gene threw the microphone, Paul's new outfit - pretty cool, the color of Gene's spikes -is that new? I always thought they were silver. Tommy & Eric - the wall flowers as usual. Motley Crue: seems like they were told to keep their mouths shut. Nikki was quiet until the very end when Paul said something (maybe a little dig) Tommy was VERY reserved and respectful. Poor Mick was his usual reserved self and as usual looked like he is on deaths door. I thought Vince was fine, spoke well when Paul allowed him. He has to get back on the treadmill though. Another interesting thing happened towards the end when they were asked about set times. Nikki said they were doing 90 mins. a piece and Paul started to ramble and thew in "whether it's 2 hours or 90 mins. ". I guarantee Kiss will play more than 90 minutes and the Crue was told to keep it at 90. You could see by the press conference that KISS is running the show.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterGallogs
OF course Paul Stanley was running the show!
Never forget which band came first, or sold more records, or who the "other" band copied half their original schtick from. (which they should go back to...)

Paul has always been the epitome' of a professional, and the prototype for what a "rock star" is. He could do these press conferences in his sleep. He's not only running this tour, he's running KISS. He's producing their albums, & if he doesn't get that say, they're not making albums or touring. SOMEBODY has to be the dictator to get things done, & surprisingly, it's not Gene Simmons. Motley knows where they stand in the pecking order, & are smart enough to know that as big as they are, or have been in the past, KISS is bigger.

On a funny sidenote, I remember a time when Sixx & company were young & hungry, and stupid enough to think they could knock KISS off their pedestal. The night before Crue opened their first show w/ KISS on the "Creatures Of The Night" tour, I was sitting with Nikki & some friends in the Troubadour bar, & he was loudly proclaiming how it was going to be "Out with the old, In with the New"... And then, they got out there on tour & found out just how much of an iron fist Paul had when running his band & tour. Crue only lasted a few gigs before getting kicked off the tour.

Everyone is 30 years older & wiser now, & they realize a good package tour is in both bands best interest. The billing is almost equal & both bands will put on as big of a show as can fit, but Paul's quip was pretty telling: "If they get too good, we'll unplug 'em". KISS will be feeling some competitive pressure, and I hope it makes them work harder.

Tickets go from $150 to $9... When was the last time you could see KISS for $9 ??? 1978?
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Gene @ 12:15 "this is real stuff"...
Yeah except for your 'Ace' and 'Peter'
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMike
After having seen KISS around 15 times, I'm only going to this because my husband wants too. As far as I'm concerned now - No Ace and No Peter means no REAL KISS.

I saw the Crue a bunch of times too but am pretty much indifferent to seeing them again.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
p.s. calling these guys old, or David Lee Roth a "senior citizen" is a low blow. Aging is unavoidable and we are all getting older.

These guys will be old when they hang up their guitars/drums and give it up for retirement and golf. These guys (and I mean the classic bands most of us love) are young at heart, as they say, and can still rock with the best of them. Maybe their hair isn't as long as it use to be and maybe their kicks aren't as high and their splits are non-existant, but calling these guys old is ridiculous.

Whoever said that is fooling themselves, because unless they found the fountain of youth, they're getting older.

And yes, it is all about the money now but going to their show is still a great time.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
Hey Ace,
I believe I paid around $11 in early 1978 for the Alive II spectacle at the Philadelphia Spectrum. LMAO!! (And it was, hands down' THE greatest stage show I have ever witnessed!!!!)
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Gary,
KISS - Dressed To Kill tour 1975 - Long Beach Arena - $3.75
(and those were the mid-priced seats!)
And it was incredible.

I wouldn't dare to call either band "old". They both kick the snot out of just about every other live act going. And have been, for going on 40 years. Like 'em or not, that deserves respect!

P.S. Those that complain about Ace & Peter being gone, Why should P&G stop just because the weaker links in the band bailed? Now they at least have a drummer who can keep time & a lead guitarist who plays in key! Sure it's not all original, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. Don't like it, Don't go. Most of the shows will still sell out. They won't miss you. Nobody complains about Pink Floyd because Syd Barrett isn't around, or the Rolling Stones because Bill Wyman's not playing bass.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
There is just something about this that doesn't feel right for the money. I know both groups kind of have some of the same basis of fans. Very loyal on both sides. But I don't know...shouldn't I be overwhelmed when Motley and KISS are touring ?

Most of the time I impulse buy a lot of concerts, but for some reason this one gives me pause. But hey, if they sell the shows and put on good ones, then who cares ?

Someone sell me on this please !!! I've seen Motley 6-7 times and KISS once unmasked and the rest has probably been 5-6 times when they came back with the original lineup.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterGNR
Should be a good show, looking forward to it.

On a side note, Cinderella has pulled out of M3 due to an injury to Jeff LeBar. Great White (w/o Jack Russell) and LA Guns are added.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJeff
GNR, I'l sell you on KISS, I saw them back in 2010 on the first date of the hottest show on earth tour in pittsburgh. It was incredible! This band is tighter then you wouldn't believe!! I actually bought the sound board recording of the show and listen to it often enough to know that even though Paul's voice isnt what it used to be instrumentally this lineup is the best since the revenge era.

No offense to Ace or Peter both are still phenomenal players but Tommy and Eric have age on their side plus Eric is more of a "metal" drummer then Peter's jazzy style. The Drum sound of that show floored me and Eric's meticulously techncial styel is amazing especially when they show the drum set shots on the big screen behind the band on stage. Tommy can emulate classic Ace to a capital T but also can through in his own Thayer-isms during his solo spot and especially the sonic boom material.

See this show to see a KISS line up that will rip through the classics and pull out a few gems and play them flawlessly!
If you want the best you'll see the best!! (shameless plug #1) HAHA
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterShadow
I don't know why they just don't come out say LIVE NATION OWNS US (well, MOTLEY,atleast)!!! This press crap is so fake, I don't even bother with what they have to say. Just let me hear the music!!
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterkari
Rita..didmt mean to offend..but these guys have been goin through the motions for awhile now..I'm 46, I'm almost over that edge,,BUT I saw Van Halen in 1980,front row for 14.50,,David Lee Roth was my idol.high rise splits off the drum riser,,110% for two hours strong,,did you see any clips from this tour?..He cannot even trot!..He walks,his voice is shot,he looks like my grandmother.he is a senior citizen,,sorry,not a low blow but the truth..and idiots spending 180.00 per ticket is a rip off to see the 'show',,VH is the day was a FCKIN SHOW!!,,KISS is fantastic live too,Saw em the first time in 1979,Dynasty tour and couldnt sleep for days!!!,Paul is the ultimate showman,frontman still,,He still has it,,Gene mails it in,,Singer and Thayer are hired guns ,,as great as they are..Motley?.huh..Saw em on the Ozzy tour supporting Shout,and many,many times unlit the greatest hits tour..,met em a few times too,,BUT all of the Crue mails it in now..esp Vince,,he can care less about the fans,only about his new strip club,his next drink,his next girl,his next million..like I said,,I had all the respect for these guys when they did what they did best..MAKIN GREAT MUSIC FOR ,,,THE FANS!..That hasnt happened is along,,LONG time!..this tour is all about money and MONEY only.
March 21, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterJimbo
Mini-golf and Kias . . . there is nothing wrong with the music that good marketing/cross-promotion can't solve.

The package makes sense though in terms of generating revenue: different fan bases create an opportunity to drive ticket sales.

Does it make me want to go? Not really. Will it be a people watching spectacle? Sure.
March 22, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHim
Jimbo,
I'm 44. I guess I was a tad offended when you called DLR a senior. I just felt bad for the guy. Actually, I just saw VH on Saturday night and I did notice that, truth be told. They were still great and sounded awesome but DLR didn't move around a lot. Last time I saw them was 1984 and they were really different this time around, no doubt about it.

But I reminded myself that DLR is not 28 anymore but 58. That's the realty. I wish I had a time machine but I don't. But I still had a great time going to the show. All the bands we love are older now and I guess what I'm saying is I don't think it's right to take shots at them for getting older. Not a whole lot can be done about it.

In terms of the Ace & Peter thing - I saw KISS a ton of times, with Eric Carr, Vinnie Vincent, Mark St. John and Bruce Kulick and I was ok with Ace and Peter not being there. I have a problem with two other people wearing their costumes (as opposed to orignal ones like Vinnie and Eric) and KISS selling the experience like it's the original. That's what I don't love about it.
March 22, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterRita
I can't believe all the complaining going on here - it is KISS and CRUE together on one night. My buds and I have spoken about nothing else since the announcement was pending. I'll be flying all the way across Canada to go see the T-O show.

SO FIRED UP!
March 22, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterSpence
ive seen both bands before too n they both kick ass, ill also be at the T-O show cant wait
March 22, 2012 | Unregistered Commenterglamrockerarchie
Rita's right. New outfits if it ain't Ace and Peter.

p.s. You're right, Al. The Press Conference is Epic! Epic Comedy, that is, for reasons well dissected above (and beyond).
March 22, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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