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How Is This Different From A Motley Crue Show?

Apparently the world is imploding because Miley Cyrus was suggestive on the MTV Video Music Awards Sunday night. I didn't even watch the awards show because I don't really listen to pop music and metal never gets covered on the VMAs.

Anyway, everyone at work was talking about Miley so I watched a clip on YouTube. Granted, you'd never see me prancing around on stage like she did Sunday night... I'm also not a famous singer trying to make the jump from teen star to adult icon. Quite frankly, she looked like a Motley Crue backup dancer to me. Anyone who owns the Carnival of Sins DVD knows what I'm talking about. What Miley did wasn't original in my book. It always seems like when a woman acts suggestive on stage, media types go bonkers. When a man does it, the world yawns. Discuss.

Reader Comments (34)

This is the curse of being "older"... I've seen this all before. 29 years ago,from another female vocalist, who's 1st record hadn't done so well.

She stacked the deck, whore'd it up and rolled, slithered & simulated self gratification sex all over an MTV Awards show stage in a slutty version of a wedding dress.

The shock & outrage of that single 3 & 1/2 minute performance made her brand new 2nd LP a huge smash, and launched her career into the stratosphere.

I wonder, What ever became of ol' Madge?
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
P.S. Once upon a time, there was this band called Motley Crue, that wasn't so lame that they needed backup dancers & aeriel act bimbos to keep your attention.

They actually kept your attention by playing well written pop/metal tunes & had a great "rock & roll road warrior" stage persona. The fact they they were only minimally adept at their instruments didn't matter. They knew how to rock, even if it only took 2 chords. They knew how to groove!

Unfortunately drugs,excess & apathy set in & they got lazy, and individual band members thought they were better than they really were. And then it all turned to sh*t.

2 sexy backup singers added to the band was one thing. Needing a sluttified sideshow onstage with you, to show how badass you think you are, just proves how badassed you AREN'T. They should have hung it up for good at that point.

But... Those Livenation checks for millions of $$$ sure do come in handy, when you're selling your self out & you have to keep bailing your alcoholic murdering singer out of jail on a consistent basis.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
At my work too, the populace was reduced to conniptions. While the performance was just plain stupid, I witnessed nothing offensive - just the idiocy of popular culture. I'd write more, but I've got to go - I think I just saw a Kardashian.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterdavid r
Ace pretty much summed it up quite succinctly. I too remember watching that 29 years ago buddy,as she rolled around and dry- humped the floor in her wedding gown.LOL. Seems we agree on Mötley also my friend. Like I said earlier in the week, the last 10 years have been nothing short of a cash grab, even if the band is musically uber tight on stage (and they certainly are,maybe more so now than at any other time) but its painfully obvious they are going through the motions (hence the circus onstage) and pretty much don't "enjoy each others company",to put it lightly. (4 separate busses guys?)
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterGary
These guys have hated eachother for a long, long time.

After one of his solo shows in '96, while hanging out with Vince Neil and Jani Lane, Vince was talking about getting back together with the Crue. His exact words were "I f***'n hate those guys but you know what, for a million bucks, I'll do it"

I'd say the cash grab has been going on for a lot longer than 10 years.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRita
About Miley - I haven't watched the whole clip but from what I've seen, I think she looks like a kid trying too hard to be a grown up. Not sexy.

The haircut has to go too.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRita
I've had a few similar conversations and the general opinion among the older (35+) set is that culture is going to hell in a handbasket and music just isn't what it used to be. But I don't see it - I don't see this as any different from what Madonna was doing 30 years ago. Hell - when she wasn't pretending to have sex on stage, she was prancing around in lingerie with a cross and people where having fits. I also remember very well parents & teachers being concerned that I was going to hell because I listened to shocking heavy metal.

The more things change...
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBryon
Ally, it's sad to say, but humans, being the imperfect creatures we are, have all kinds of double standards that make no sense. Graphic violence on prime time TV is okay, but sex isn't. People laugh every day at ethnic jokes, until the joke is about their own ethnic group, then they are suddenly offended. I could go on and on, but you get my point.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBob
....the more they stay the same...

Living through the 80's with my mind still firmly entrenched in the gutter, I gotta yawn and congratulate Cyrus for accomplishing her goal: attention/any pub is good pub.

With social media the world is like high school. Lame reasons for fatish mothers to complain and type on their Iphones while eating snickers, watching Oprah instead of cleaning the god damn house while her husband punches the clock. Janes said it right "nothing's shocking".

Wake up glammers.....keep the spirit alive!
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKixchix
The difference here is that my friends' 9 year old daughters do not have posters of the Crue on their walls, or run around singing 'Shout At The Devil' with their friends.

Miley is a role model to preteen girls (for better or worse), and should be conscious of that when shamelessly whoring for publicity on a national platform.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMike
I thought it was cool enough. Didn't seem as contrived as Lady Gaga(Who is a lame Madonna wannabe & Madonna wasn't very cool in the first place). Most pre teen girls have moved on they are a fickle bunch. Hanna Montana has been off the air for like 3 or 4 years that's like a decade to them. Anyways...I read a interview with Miley Cyrus and she said Poison was her first ever concert and she covers the song "Every Rose Has It's Thorn" on one of her CD's & she does a song with Bret Michaels on one of his CD's.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJakki Steal
Reality check: GaGa has more talent on the tip of her pinky than Madonna, Cyrus and Spears combined (I'd mention other but who the hell else is there). The girl can sing, she can write, she can perform, she can choreograph, she can dance, she can design and she can actually play!

Neither the virtually talentless Madonna, Cyrus or Spears can carry a tune, write their own stuff, choreograph, etc., and can barely dance. And though GaGa can twerk with the best of them and showed more a*s than anyone during the broadcast, she didn't do the former and didn't need to do the latter. The difference with her is it's not just about shock, it's about art. Pop Art.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Oh, yeah... Then, there's Katie Perry. Judging from her performance at the conclusion of the VMAs this past Sunday, she couldn't punch her way out of a paper bag.

GaGa topped 'em all.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Oh, and to answer the original question, "How is this different than a Mötley Crüe Show?"...

That's painfully obvious on two fronts...

1) The Music, which ROCKS at a Crüe show and does the opposite on the VMAs. Where, oh, where did Rock & Roll go?

2) With Crüe, all the twerking, etc., is done by backup dancers, whereas with Cyrus, she is the main performer, if you could call what she's doing "performing".

Still, to be quite honest, I found the show quite fascinating from beginning to end. The real winners of the show, in my mind, are all the set designers, costume designers, choreographers and producers. As stupid as it was at times, this years VMAs broadcast was one of THE most entertaining in recent memory.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!
Is miley still a role model to pre teen girls ? I doubt it. She WS AS, it's because that market has dried up that she's trying to equate slutty with grown up.
August 27, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterChristian
TO add a cruel twist of irony to all of this, Monday night, I went to what has become sort of a "musicians in the know" local Jam thing... And who was up on stage knocking out Rolling Stones cover tunes? Ex-White Lion bassist James Lomenzo, former Vince Neal guitarist Brent Wood, Ex Gn'R guitarist Gilby Clarke, Drum Legend Kenny Aaronoff... AND singing? Miley's dad, Billy Ray Cyrus... True Story!

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August 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Damn Ace, that's a pretty talented "jam". Any idea what Lomenzo is up to since he isn't with Megadeth anymore? (On a side note, frickin' Mustaine could give Axl a run for the money in running guys out of the band)

And MB, you're so correct about GaGa's ability. Girl flushes more talent every morning than the 3 you mentioned.(Although I will give Madonna credit for having incredible business acumen)
August 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Gary, All I know is, James is the one behind organizing these "Monday Night Jams" at Lucys 51 in Toluca Lake. Always some interesting players. Last week, Chuck Wright & Frankie Banali from Quiet Riot, Richie Kotzen from Poison/Winery Dogs, James, & a bunch of other top flight players were there.
August 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterAce Steele
Cool. Kotzen was born and raised like 30 miles from me in Reading PA. Used to see him in his band "Arthurs Museum" around here all the time. Guy is an n credible guitarist and vocalist, and I don't know about now, but he used to be one helluva nice guy.I can actually remember seeing him rip it up in a music store when he was like 11 and I was about 18 and thinking Holy Shit, this kid is incredible!!! Lol. Little did I know.....
August 28, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterGary
Yeah, Gary. Too bad the last good stuff Kotzen ever did was when he was 17 in Arthur's Museum.
August 29, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMetalboy!

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